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Bechdel Meets The FBI

2010 October 21
by Stephen B
A still from Fringe, in which characters Olivia and Nina have a heated discussion. Image: Fox

FRINGE: Olivia and Nina Sharp talk about boys. ...No, wait. ©2008 Fox Broadcasting Co. Cr: Barbara Nitke/FOX

I’ve been thinking about the Bechdel Test recently, and it’s something which has come up frequently in the comments on this site. For those who don’t know, this is a test which rates a movie by whether it has:

  • At least two women in it
  • Who talk to each other
  • About something other than a man

Now let’s face it, this shouldn’t be difficult. It actually doesn’t go very far – it’s entirely possible to write a movie which passes but is in no way “feminist”, or is even actively misogynist. It’s very important not to overestimate Bechdel. It tells you nothing about the tone, content or values of a film.

But it does prove that there are two women, and they talk about something other than men. That has value, in an industry where the pass rate for movies is truly pathetic.

Some of the reasons for this low pass rate are actually more about lazy narrative structure than lazy sexism. Far too often if a conversation between two women happens, it still fails because it is only about the lead character, who is a man. In order to maximise tension and pace, all small talk not relating to explosions or imminent danger is cut from the script. (Sadly it’s more often replaced with “I hope hero-man X can save us!”. Even today, it’s ridiculous how much this happens.)

Network TV suffers from this more than cinema because in most television the lead character MUST, MUST be a white male. Must. No negotiation. Must. If you deviate from this, you are That Brave Show with the Alternative Lead, and some other stuff that no-one pays as much attention to as the fact you have an Alternative Lead. Some movies are pushing the boundaries, but the US networks generally refuse to.

So I’m going to talk briefly about TV shows instead of the usual movies. TV science-fiction is a genre which usually scores pathetically badly in particular, so let’s take a series from there which Does It Right:

Fringe. (Minor spoilers to follow!)

Olivia Dunham, a female FBI agent, investigates paranormal events with the aid of a genius, his insane father, another female FBI agent and occasionally some very recognisable beloved genre actors.

Even here there are problems. The biggest one is that she’s arguably not the main character anymore: the show provided such a rich story for the insane father (and to be fair, an absolutely astonishing actor) that he’s nearer the centre of the show.

But it certainly does pass the Bechdel test. Olivia frequently speaks to her female colleague, her sister and various others on work and personal matters. Although she’s quite unemotional about many things (due to trust issues and a twisted childhood), a lot of the screen time is on her experience as a woman in her role. The character is sympathetic and far from two-dimensional.

Much more impressive (and one point which really raised the series) is the episode where she is kidnapped and the male leads are racing to save her from several armed thugs.

But they don’t need to, because she’s an FBI agent – she promptly frees herself and beats the living crap out of everyone nearby, escapes and phones it in. Because female agents are armed and trained professionals, not princesses in a tower.

True, it’s another case of a woman excelling by acting in ways traditionally associated with male aggression. Proving they can punch people in the face as hard as men can is NOT the same as depicting realistic female lives on TV. Similarly in politics, being more aggressive, intolerant and eager for war than the male Hawks isn’t the way to be an inspiration for women – it just means there’s another right-wing patriarchal asshole in the room, and the world has enough of those. But in this case, Dunham’s principles are so strong and her courage so constant that the show is very clearly about her being a competent agent and a woman in the FBI… without her gender ever marking her out as special. She isn’t cut any slack by her bosses, and isn’t expected to react differently under pressure. Olivia naturally starts as the focus and no-one ever reacts to it as being unusual.

Female leads in action movies are still a hot issue. Elsewhere on the site we’ve had a blogpost on the movie “Salt”, which got made because Angelina Jolie can do anything the hell she wants in Hollywood, and they’re already reassured that she can handle guns and car chases. But the press were astonished at the idea of a woman playing a role which had been written for a male spy.

I would dearly love to see something that has a truly interchangeable lead. A fully-rounded character with opinions and instincts, but one which could be equally played by a man or a woman. What would be really interesting is “Person X has a love interest Y, and doesn’t get on with their ex, Z”. Now roll some dice to decide which gender everyone is.

For me, Bechdel isn’t the point. It proves itself, and is therefore a useful barometer for how female roles are being treated across the industry, but it doesn’t tell you about the movie or show. Fringe goes way beyond it, and the interesting parts about Fringe aren’t described by the pass/fail: the female characters are SO strong that it’s the struggle of wills between Olivia and Nina that is really behind the drive to reveal or cover the truth, not the men.

For example, another TV show which passes the test (but this time just barely) is the unashamedly cowboy-centred modern police story Justified.  At one point it has the main character’s current lover and ex-wife talk to each other, but naturally includes him as a subject of the conversation. Given their romantic connection to him and the tension between them right at that moment which comes from it, it’s not an ignorant fail on the part of the writers. It would be bizarre for him not to be a topic of conversation… but this example is typical of the few times that two women talk to each other in a lot of movies and TV.

In this case the lead is once again a white male, but the show’s entire existence is due to the actor playing a Sheriff in (the excellent) Deadwood, so we can forgive it White Male syndrome a little. (Incidentally, HBO are responsible for Deadwood, The Wire, Rome, True Blood etc, all of which are phenomenally good at passing the Bechdel test.)

It’s the other conversation which is missing. Conversation about… anything except the male lead. Studio execs seem to think this must be women talking about Women’s Things, and that male viewers will vomit themselves into a coma after being exposed to anything more than 5 seconds of it. (This is actually true for Grey’s Anatomy, but then it had that effect on EVERYONE after the first couple of series.) What never seems to get answered on the internet is… what would that conversation be about? Do men get equivalent conversation screentime, or is it that they just don’t talk as much about anything except the task at hand?

So here’s what I’d like to do: as well as suggesting what the Bechdel time should be spent on, I’d like the commenters to answer a modified version of the Bechdel Test for TV, as below.

Does the TV series feature at least two named female characters…

  • Who talk to each other
  • About something other than 1) a man or 2) the immediate danger they themselves are in
  • And does it do this at least once every 5 episodes?

(One occurrence in a 23-ep run or over several series does not deserve to pass the test, frankly.)

Are there any good shows out there? Any absolute stinkers? Is the action / tension so constant and high in modern tv that characters MUST talk about the male lead all the time, because all other spare time involves dodging explosions?

13 Responses leave one →
  1. Jenni permalink
    October 21, 2010

    I reckon Avatar passed? Thanks for reccing me that, it was so cool.

    I like the ‘every five episodes’ modification for TV.

    • Stephen B permalink
      October 21, 2010

      That’s Avatar: The Last Airbender *cartoon* for anyone confused :)

      Which yes, does pass. Although many women are immediately romantically linked to (and talking about) the male characters, there’s also the brilliant Azula and her entourage. What impresses me most about that series is that on every other equality issue (race, status, civil rights) it’s absolutely brilliant.

  2. Russell permalink
    October 21, 2010

    “Person X has a love interest Y, and doesn’t get on with their ex, Z”. Now roll some dice to decide which gender everyone is.

    Only if it’s a 40-sided dice. Six genders just isn’t enough.

  3. Alasdair permalink
    October 21, 2010

    Why every five episodes? Isn’t that a cop out? If we’re talking about a hypothetical bare minimum test, why the hell should it only require 20% representation for 50% of the population?

    • Stephen B permalink
      October 21, 2010

      Absolutely, but the initial standard for Bechdel is “once in the whole thing”.

      Besides, let’s take 4 characters: two women, two men. The two women talking should happen at least 1/6 of the time, the other options being woman/man x4 and man/man. And when the woman/woman conversations DON’T include 50% of the other characters on the show (the men), you’re down to 1/12 of all conversations already and it’s still arguably ‘equal’.

      And that’s assuming there’s time for any conversations between the explosions. I’m pretty happy with 20% representation, I think it’ll give a realistic impression of the approach of the whole show.

    • Stephen B permalink
      October 21, 2010

      And it’s even less likely than that, of course, because women aren’t 50% of the characters on a show. We’re lucky if there’s 2 at all to have the conversation. But it’d still pass Bechdel, so for my slightly modified version I’m tightening it up a *bit* on the understanding that everything is still very crap :)

  4. October 21, 2010

    The show that gets it right is “Criminal Minds” (or it did before the current season, when one of the three female characters was cut). There, women often talk about careers, hobbies and daily lives, and when they do talk about men, it’s likely to be about the suspect-of-the-week, rather than the male leads.

  5. Jonny C permalink
    October 21, 2010

    Battlestar Galactica springs to mind (the new one, obvs), as does Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where female social interaction is largely concerned with the end of the world.

    • Miranda permalink*
      October 21, 2010

      I absolutely adore the little I have seen of Katee Sackhoff’s Starbuck. And yes, Buffy is excellent. Joss Whedon generally does pretty well, I think.

      Firefly wasn’t as good as Buffy, but not because it failed Bechdel (it doesn’t, to my memory, though its pass “level” I can’t quite remember, now I think about it). More just because I found the women in it less interesting – I’m pretty sure the producers have actually said in an interview that Kaylee provided “someone to rescue”, even if she is a kickass mechanic on the exterior (the episode where a bounty hunter asks her if she’s ever been raped is a bit horrendous!). I very much dig Zoe, but I feel like we don’t see enough of her inner life in between all that ass-kicking. And Inara is, I think, interesting, but also a play on some cliches that I’m not sure always goes over perfectly. “Heart of Gold” is one of the ep titles (inference: Hookers With A…) – Whedon is always thoroughly well-versed in his pop cultural language and tropes – but sometimes I’m just not sure it quite ticks all my personal boxes. Think I need to re-watch it. It’s a good example of some very good TV where Bechdel is indeed only the tip of the iceberg!

  6. October 21, 2010

    Wasn’t Ripley from Alien originally a man?

    Also, I think Lost has got a very big variety of women talking about the many many plots (if there were only sexual interaction conversations there would not be room for the much intrigue.) In fact if anything I think it’s the men constantly talking about the women. Jack and Sawyer’s interactions always have a massively loud “KATE” subtext.

  7. Jonathan permalink
    October 21, 2010

    I would add Castle, Leverage and Bones off the top of my head. And to a lesser extent NCIS/any other crime team drama kicking about currently.ng all gossipy.

  8. Jonathan permalink
    October 21, 2010

    oops…curse my inability to cut and paste properly.

  9. October 21, 2010

    Firefly is surprisingly poor at Bechdel. many strong women characters who simply happen not to interact with each other at first.

    Also examples of poor sexual politics that pass Bechdel: most teen dramas (eg. Gossip Girl, 90210)/soaps in general, sitcoms with a large enough population of female characters (eg. Scrubs, Friends). These shows tend to be grounded in conventional stereotypes as story telling devices, so the relationships depicted are generally less than impressive, yet female characters will often dicuss their work/family situations with each other (or clothes/shopping yay more stereotypes) which means they pass Bechdel.

    In the vein of BSG I’d like to mention Stargate Universe, previous SG shows tend to be pretty low on female characters which has often prevented them from passing Bechdel, but SGU has done very well so far – also one of the main characters is a lesbian and after 1 and a bit seasons this is yet to be a plot point (her relationship has been a plot point, but the fact it’s a same sex relationship has not). Also Robert Carlysle is in it and is awesome.

    I like the idea of the Bechdel test, but it’s about representation, not about anything further. It’s a really good test for any form of representation. For example, if you like sci-fi shows, replace ‘female’ with ‘Aliens’ and ‘man’ with ‘human’. If you like teen shows replace ‘female’ with ‘adult’ and ‘man’ with ‘teenager’. If you’re part of the ethnic majority replace ‘female’ with ‘black’ and ‘man’ with ‘white’. How many tv shows pass that one?

    I think Clinking Dog also once pointed out to me that Juno doesn’t pass the reverse Bechdel.

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